Undercurrents: Defining Pandemics, and Mikheil Saakashvili’s Ukrainian Comeback

This week, Ben speaks to Charles Clift from the Global Health Programme about the WHO’s communication challenges around the coronavirus. They explore how pandemics are defined, and the implications of when the announcement was made. Then Agnes meets Max Fras to find out how former Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili has gained political office in Ukraine. 

Undercurrents is a new podcast series from Chatham House. Agnes Frimston and Ben Horton interview Chatham House experts about the critical underlying issues which are shaping modern society.

Chatham House is an independent policy institute based in London. Our mission is to help build a sustainably secure, prosperous and just world.

Speakers: Charles Clift, Max Fras
Hosts: Agnes Frimston, Ben Horton
Sound Editor: Jamie Reed
Producer: Ben Horton
Recorded and produced at Chatham House.